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a million times a trillion more ([personal profile] dolorosa_12) wrote2021-04-03 01:21 pm

Palimpsests?

The Easter weekend drifts on by. Today began lazily (I didn't wake up until 8.45am, which is oversleeping by my standards), with more hot cross buns and tea, a trip into the market for vegetables and cut flowers, and an hour or so finishing off Blood Maidens, the third James Asher book by Barbara Hambly. It retrod a lot of family ground (characters dashing across Europe by train, vivid portraits of major cities and their inhabitants on the eve of World War II, melodramtically gothic vampires mouldering in the dark, forgotten places), but I enjoyed it well enough.

The third question of the book meme asks for:

3. A book where you really wanted to be reading the "shadow" version of the book (as in, there are traces of a different book in the work and you would have much preferred to read that one)



I found this impossible to answer. I know of books which were changed by editorial decision mid-way through the writing process from YA science fiction dystopia to YA contemporary fiction in a really obvious way (presumably so as to discard a no longer lucrative trend for one which was the hot new thing), but I haven't read them and so can't include them here.

The only thing I can think of is something I've observed for a while now in specifically fantasy novels, with female protagonists, written by Americans, is that the characters will all be adults, and they'll exist in a world that gives them adult responsibilities, but they'll react to situations in what feels like a very teenage, YA way. I don't know if I'm explaining this very well, but it's basically as if they have the emotional development of teenagers aged 15 or 16, with no reasonable explanation (a sheltered upbringing, or a world in which an extended childhood is the norm — indeed usually the opposite is true, with such characters holding important political or military positions, or commanding bands of outlaws or whatever).

I don't really know what is behind this particular trend. If it is the 'shadow book' issue in play (authors originally conceived of their work as YA books but were made to rewrite them for an adult readership, with mixed results), obviously the effect is visible to me. But it could merely be an editorial decision (authors aiming for a more lucrative crossover hit that will appeal to a teenage readership as well), or clumsy writing. It's happened enough times that it's noticable to me, though.

Weirdly, I have never found the opposite version of this (children's or YA books with preternaturally mature and independent child/teenage characters), probably because this is the way books aimed at children have always been written. You need to get the authority figures out of the way somehow, or they'll stop the children from having adventures! But when it comes to adults behaving like teenagers, it's incredibly grating.



4. A book with a worldbuilding detail that has stuck with you

5. A book where you loved the premise but the execution left you cold

6. A book where you were dubious about the premise but loved the work

7. The most imaginative book you've seen lately

8. A book that feels like it was written just for you

9. A book that reminds you of someone

10. A book that belongs to a specific time in your mind, caught in amber

11. A book that came to you at exactly the right time

12. A book that came to you at the wrong time

13. A book with a premise you'd never seen before quite like that

14. A book balanced on a knife edge

15. A snuffed candle of a book

16. The one you'd take with you while you were being ferried on dark underground rivers

17. The one that taught you something about yourself

18. A book that went after its premise like an explosion

19. A book that started a pilgrimage

20. A frigid ice bath of a book

21. A book written into your psyche

22. A warm blanket of a book

23. A book that made you bleed

24. A book that asked a question you've never had an answer to

25. A book that answered a question you never asked

26. A book you recommend but cannot love

27. A book you love but cannot recommend

28. A book you adore that people are surprised by

29. A book that led you home

30. A book you detest that people are surprised by
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[personal profile] likeadeuce 2021-04-03 01:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok i need to hear more about dystopias being written as contemporary. . .do you have a particular book in mind b/c that sounds wild!!
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[personal profile] likeadeuce 2021-04-05 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, that's. . .sure a set of choices, huh?
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[personal profile] merit 2021-04-04 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
I know of books which were changed by editorial decision mid-way through the writing process from YA science fiction dystopia to YA contemporary fiction in a really obvious way omg, the results! A tough time for YA - it seems to spiral through trends at a much faster rate (understandable considering the audience) but that must be tough for authors.

I have usually DNF those sort of fantasy books within the first few chapters. Neither here nor there.
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[personal profile] merit 2021-04-05 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I remember reading that about YA readership! That's an interesting set of articles (which would likely be very awkward to read in a mainstream publication). It does make me wonder about how that influences that YA genre and what teenagers are actually reading.
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[personal profile] superborb 2021-04-04 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Hm, I feel like there are a few books where I would have preferred to be reading about the secondary characters/pairings, but I don't know that I'd call it a 'shadow' book, which seems to imply a genre or larger shift. (e.g. Crazy Rich Asians, the main pairing was boring to me, but some of the secondary characters were really interesting. But it wouldn't be that different a book, just on a different set of characters!)