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Social media — and our relationship with it — is a topic that's been on my mind a lot recently, as more and more friends post about a) how unhappy it's making them and b) various vicious online blowups in their various social and professional circles. I've noticed many friends talking about how they're trying to figure out a healthy way to stay online while navigating these various miserable and treacherous waters.



Of course we are all different, but I wondered if it would be helpful to talk about my own experiences in these matters. I'm someone who's been enthusiastically online for around thirteen years, and a good portion of my social life has taken place across various social media platforms since then. But around a year and a half ago, I realised a lot of the gloss had worn off, and instead of being a happy place where I hung out with my friends, certain platforms were exacerbating my anxiety, to the point that I spent most days feeling either furious or so anxious that it made me physically ill. I spent most of the next eighteen months using a process of trial and error to arrive at a healthier way of being online. I'm not saying it will work for you, but here's what I did:
Firstly, I asked myself a few questions: why was I on various platforms, what did I like to see/do in those spaces, what sorts of content and activity made me feel unhappy.

My answer to the third question was the same across all platforms: frantic, despairing, angry discussions of politics, particularly if it took the form of a live feed/livetweets, discussing events (with much frenzied and panicked speculation) as they unfolded, rather than summarising or analysing them at length after they'd happened. In addition, I am someone who really, really hates being part of, or witnessing, debate. I know some of my friends find debating ideas an interesting intellectual exercise, a social activity, or something which gives them a satisfying rush of righteousness. For me, I get none of that — debates and conflict, even if they are being conducted in the calmest of terms, make me feel tense, panicked, and emotional. So, since I was using social media for almost solely social/personal reasons, just as I would try at all costs to avoid face-to-face situations that involved debates among friends, it seemed logical that avoiding such things in online social spaces would make me less miserable.

My answers to the first two questions differed from platform to platform, because I was using them for slightly different reasons, but by going through my online presence platform by platform I was able to change the way I used them to curate my experience and avoid the things I found unpleasant, as outlined in the above paragraph. I'll go through the sites one by one.

Dreamwidth: I use Dreamwidth because mid-2000s era Livejournal was basically the internet at its best for me: longform blogging, a community of enthusiastic commenters who replied at length, the ability to create communities based on interests, the ability to control access to what you posted, no retweet/share/reblog button, a chronological feed, no ads, and no selling of user data. Dreamwidth remains this kind of paradise. To be honest, I didn't need to change anything about how I was using it — except that I made a conscious effort to use it more, to post frequently, and with content that invited discussion and conversation, to comment on other people's posts, to make that longform style of blogging my primary form of online activity. I consider it to be my online home base.

Facebook: I'm on Facebook to stay in touch with friends and family, and I view it as essentially a gigantic, online living room or dining room table, with an ever-changing collection of guests. I'm here because I want to hear about people's hobbies, families, pets, holidays, successes and challenges with work, and, to an extremely limited extent, engagement with politics. I'm not here to witness or participate in lengthy, wearying arguments. I recognised that I couldn't control how OTHER people were using Facebook, and so I ruthlessly curated my feed: I muted everyone who had a tendency to use Facebook to debate and argue with their friends, I filtered every post I made so that those most likely to argue with me wouldn't see them, and immediately this place became much more relaxing. The one thing I haven't figured out how to block is seeing friends arguing in the comments sections of e.g. Guardian posts to Facebook, the comments sections of groups of which they're members, and so on (some of them really, really love arguing in the comments section!), beyond hiding individual posts as they appear, or blocking the entire group/organisation's posts. These curatorial decisions are very much an ongoing project — I tend to operate a three strikes and you're out policy, so I'm constantly revising whose posts I see. Probably next on my list of people to mute are those who just post screenshots of old Twitter, Tumblr or Reddit posts whose source is unclear, and without any contextualising comments of their own. As I say, people are free to use Facebook as they like, and it's my responsibility to curate my feed.

Instagram: much more straightforward. I'm here because I like to look at pretty pictures. The only people I follow there are friends and family, and strangers who post beautiful photos of stuff I like looking at: gardens, nature, food, books, and stationery. I try to keep this platform an oasis of calm, so if any strangers I follow suddenly pivot to constant political posting, I simply unfollow and move on.

Twitter: has been the biggest challenge of all. For much of the past eighteen months, my only solution has been to simply not use it at all, because it made me have endless panic attacks. I haven't looked at it for over a month, and before that I think I went for about three months without using it. My problem with Twitter is that I started using it at the point where the rhetoric in my online social circles was very much a) Twitter is the best way to keep yourself informed of current affairs and b) if you're not feeling upset and angry and challenged by the online company you keep, you've created a privileged bubble for yourself and are actively contributing to oppression. (I now kind of think both of these things are nonsense: there are better ways to remain informed of current affairs than Twitter, and there are certainly better ways to fight for social justice than to listen to a lot of people screaming in despair on Twitter.) My main problem about leaving Twitter altogether is that a large part of my online social circle is solely on that platform. I've been thinking a lot about ways to navigate this, and am tentatively coming up with a plan to go there once a week (probably Sunday mornings), not look at my feed at all, and just chat to anyone who's around about whatever's been happening in their lives. I'm going to test that as an experiment starting in October.

I'm on a couple of other platforms in a very superficial way, but those four are the main ones, and the changes I've made in the past eighteen months have proved really, really helpful. I'm much less angry, I'm much less anxious, and I actually feel like I have a lot more time and energy, even though I'm probably online just as much as I was before. I'm not suggesting that everyone should exactly follow what I did. But I do think that a lot of people would find it helpful to do a sort of mental audit of their social media usage — what they're trying to achieve by being on each platform, what makes them unhappy, and whether there are any steps they can take in terms of curating their presence and feed to remove that unhappiness. It may be as extreme as leaving certain platforms altogether, or it may be smaller tweaks are all that's needed.

I would also say that it is helpful to remove the sense of guilt you might feel at no longer bearing constant, immediate, real-time witness to all the iniquities of the world. We on the more leftwing side of the political spectrum have been somewhat indoctrinated that this is the morally responsible thing to do, and that not doing so makes you weak, cowardly, in denial, or actively doing harm. I would counter that and say that witnessing this constant, international, online live feed of horrors wears us down and makes it harder for people to do the work to fight against such horrors. Ask yourself: what is actually more likely to achieve concrete results — glueing yourself to Twitter and frantically retweeting things about every political and social iniquity in your entire country (or the entire world), or focusing with laser-like attention on a single cause, problem or issue, and taking concrete steps (writing letters, making donations, connecting relevant people, running for office or supporting those who are) to solve it?

Date: 2020-09-25 10:16 am (UTC)
thawrecka: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thawrecka
I have three twitter accounts and only check one, my ruthlessly locked down fandom twitter where I follow maybe twelve people, none of whom are posting political stuff on a regular basis. It is really refreshing. The two people whose tweets I see the most are people I've had as fandom friends for easily 18 years, so it feels really quite comfy.

I occasionally used to check my legal name twitter because of author networking reasons and so much of it is politics, and American politics in particular, expressed in ways that seem designed to make people feel bad, that there just doesn't seem any point. I have muted some people and muted some words, but tbh, I just don't check that account.

Date: 2020-09-25 10:41 am (UTC)
lilysea: Anxious (Anxious)
From: [personal profile] lilysea
I found using twitter

made me feel very connected to people/issues/the world
in a positive way while I was doing it

made me feel energised and full of dopamine while I was doing it

and then gave me anxiety attacks 3-4 hours later and the next day.

I haven't been on twitter for months now, and my Anxiety is SO much better.

By contrast, Facebook and Dreamwidth rarely exacerbate/aggravate my Anxiety.

Date: 2020-09-25 12:47 pm (UTC)
nyctanthes: (Default)
From: [personal profile] nyctanthes
I would also say that it is helpful to remove the sense of guilt you might feel at no longer bearing constant, immediate, real-time witness to all the iniquities of the world.

So much yes to this.

I also find social media navigation to be an ongoing issue. I was only nominally on FB, but even that small presence was too much - I really didn't need to hear the opinions of folks I haven't spoken to since high school - and I deactivated my account a couple of years ago. It's been wonderful. I was on Twitter for work and loathed it, so while I have the account, I don't log on. Instagram I only use when I travel. So not much, recently. :P

For me, I'm very good at avoiding doom-scrolling. Since Trump was elected I skew perhaps too far to staying out of the news cycle; but hey, even if I'm a few hours/days late, I do learn about what's going on and take action if I can.

It's the fannish stuff I've had to cut down on. I guess my anxiety about RL needs somewhere to go, and unless I really restrict my access, I find myself getting all worked up about someone's dumb fandom opinions! It's not even a question of unfollowing, because I don't follow them in the first place, but seek them out. It's rather counter-productive.

I agree about DW, it's the best.

tl; dr: The less I'm online, the better I feel. It's too bad, but true for me.

Date: 2020-09-25 05:47 pm (UTC)
kore: (Dreamwidth - green)
From: [personal profile] kore
Yeah, I realized the less I am online, the more I actually do and the calmer and happier I feel, but....I'm also really isolated except for one family member and it's the majority of my socializing. I don't really know what to do about that. //clutches DW

Date: 2020-09-25 08:56 pm (UTC)
nyctanthes: (Default)
From: [personal profile] nyctanthes
:: clutches DW with you :: It's the only fannish site where I've made friends. I don't think I'm cut out to do well (i.e., have meaningful interactions) with anyone on Tumblr. It's a weird place these days: so much despair and stress being sent into the void.

Date: 2020-09-25 10:05 pm (UTC)
kore: (Dreamwidth Island - xkcd)
From: [personal profile] kore
OMG I know, LJ was just my kind of place and thank God [staff profile] denise et al forked off DW and have put so much love and work into it, I just don't know what I'd do without all my friends here.

With Tumblr, a whole lot of making friends seemed dependent on leaving anon asks on or using their chat program when they had it, and I had e-stalkers for like a decade, so I NEVER had anon comments on for any social media account, and locked up most of them. Likewise Twitter seems to depend a lot on DMs and group DMs. And with Twitter, it wasn't my e-stalkers who got me in DMs but a very very strange woman who came into my dad's life near the end of it and just would not leave me alone. I just don't need people I don't know (or some people I DO know) feeling free to harass me that way. LJ and other places were pseudonymous (I still think of friends as their pseuds!) and anon comments were a thing there, but I turned mine off early and had plenty of interaction with people anyway.

Date: 2020-09-25 08:52 pm (UTC)
nyctanthes: (Default)
From: [personal profile] nyctanthes
to constantly remain aware of awful current affairs and other things that cause anger is like a form of self-harm

I was thinking this when I wrote my comment. Definitely agree.

Date: 2020-09-25 10:13 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
What is the word, negstimming? The internet seems almost built on that (at least, if you are me. sigh).

Date: 2020-09-25 03:49 pm (UTC)
cahn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cahn
*nods* This post resonated a lot with me, and I've gone through something rather similar. DW is really wonderful! Long-form text and being able to form a community of people who are interested in the same kinds of things IS THE BEST.

I've stopped engaging almost entirely with Facebook, which I think is a kind of self-protection mechanism. I don't know that this particular thing is completely a positive way of dealing with life (I seem to miss some important stuff as well -- I wish there were a way to filter for "life updates that I, personally, think are important," lol) but it's what it is right now. (Before pandemic, I would check it about once a week or so, which I think was a little more healthy because at least I got some updates about friends.)

And like you, I just use IG to follow strangers who post pretty pictures, it's not at all connected with either my real life or fandom life except for following my sister on her fandom account :)

I have a Tumblr, but there was so much negativity and constant anxiety there that even though opera fandom is almost wholly present there, I had to just stop because I could feel it making me feel worse, bah.

Date: 2020-09-25 06:02 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
I ONLY use my Tumblr for fannish stuff, it's not personal at all -- there's also art and some book stuff and classical antiquities but I don't talk about IRL or politics -- but there's still so much politics in fandom, or fannish blogs reblogging all the "BE SURE TO VOTE!!!" stuff, and I also find Tumblr really hard to search and it's starting to get difficult to filter, like Twitter. I rarely use Facebook because I couldn't figure out how to get through all the promoted shit and the reposts of "funny" items and news stories to actual real people I knew and their updates. Twitter's like that and IG keeps fucking with the feed. I think the anxiety a lot of us are feeling is a deliberate strategy on the part of the social network designers, too -- the more engaged you are, the more you post and comment and increase their revenue. Nobody in that setup gets wealthier when we're scrolling through all contented and calm.

Date: 2020-09-25 08:01 pm (UTC)
cahn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cahn
Yeah, same to only using Tumblr for fannish stuff (or at least for non-RL stuff), and yet, as you say, there's still so much politics in Tumblr fandom. (I feel like people on DW are better about putting politics under cut, so I can engage with it when I want and ignore it when I don't want, which is most of the time.) And also in general I feel like because of the short-post/reblog style, it's easy for posters to sort of mix in personal stuff with fandom stuff and hard for me to disassociate the two, whereas I have an easier time doing it when reading my DW feed, which comes in larger chunks?

I think the anxiety a lot of us are feeling is a deliberate strategy on the part of the social network designers, too -- the more engaged you are, the more you post and comment and increase their revenue. Nobody in that setup gets wealthier when we're scrolling through all contented and calm.

Huh, that makes a lot of sense!

Date: 2020-09-25 10:07 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
Yeah, I think most people on DW will tag with "politics" or put stuff behind a cut or they will separate it out. Not to sound mean but I think a lot of people on Tumblr and Twitter are doing reblogging/retweeting activism where they want to pump up the notes on something they politically support, and for me that's like a subset of "if you're not talking about the terrible social conditions you're in a privileged bubble" -- "if you're not reblogging this, you don't really care."

Date: 2020-09-25 05:45 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
Hello you are me -- I really can't deal with even friendly debate, or people who enjoy debate but don't mean anything personal by it. It's not a trigger exactly but it ups my anxiety exponentially. I also tend to think not a lot of minds actually get changed by vehement arguing.

I log into Facebook every couple of years or so. I use Tumblr on and off and also post on Instagram, and both of those are fun but I also have no idea how to make friends native to those platforms and I'm not interested in marketing my brand or whatever. I OCCASIONALLY check reddit for discussions about stuff like the Locked Tomb or Magicians books or comics or cooking. I think Metafilter (I hung out there in the 90s-early 00s) has a fannish scene now but it's also very very political and boy, do the people there love to argue.

Twitter: has been the biggest challenge of all. For much of the past eighteen months, my only solution has been to simply not use it at all, because it made me have endless panic attacks. I haven't looked at it for over a month, and before that I think I went for about three months without using it. My problem with Twitter is that I started using it at the point where the rhetoric in my online social circles was very much a) Twitter is the best way to keep yourself informed of current affairs and b) if you're not feeling upset and angry and challenged by the online company you keep, you've created a privileged bubble for yourself and are actively contributing to oppression. (I now kind of think both of these things are nonsense: there are better ways to remain informed of current affairs than Twitter, and there are certainly better ways to fight for social justice than to listen to a lot of people screaming in despair on Twitter.)

Yyyyyeah. Just....yeah. I do feel like a lot of news is happening there -- it's like an international live global news feed -- but a lot of it's also distorted and commercialized, and I cannot DEAL with all the horrible racist sexist comments, and it also freaks me out for ADHD reasons in terms of focus and....idk, feeling like I always have to race to keep up? Like it'll never be finished? Trumpty is a total creation of Twitter. (And reality TV.) What you say about feeling compelled to keep checking in with how awful everything is and chime in with comments about yes, it is awful! is really very well-put.

Date: 2020-09-25 06:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] eglantiere
yeah, i hear you. the pandemic was the final push for me to kill ALL the notifications, very mercilessly curate my facebook to a handful of personal friends and relatives, ban facebook on my phone, and be brutal with excising any kind of debate if it sticks with me. and i've never actually gotten into twitter and i feel like it was just better for anybody involved.

dreamwidth continues to be a happy social haven for me, amen. especially since tumblr anti drama mostly doesn't reach here.

Date: 2020-09-25 07:08 pm (UTC)
naye: (one piece - tea time)
From: [personal profile] naye
In addition, I am someone who really, really hates being part of, or witnessing, debate.
Hi this is 100% me. I was looking at old journals the other day and came across something 17-year-old me had written about being in a chat room when two people started disagreeing with each other and how I couldn't sleep and didn't know when I'd be able to go back there. I've gotten a little better at it, but I still go to great lengths to avoid anything that might start a debate. I got super anxious recently when I tweeted about how harassment was not okay and some of the harassers minions' got into my mentions and I had to shut them down (reply + block so they couldn't keep arguing). Even knowing I was standing up for someone who needed support, even though "you should not harass people" seems like it's just basic common decency. Augh.

Anyway, it sounds like you've got things pretty well figured out and that's great! And I'm so glad we have Dreamwidth with its longform exchanges and slower tempo. I've been seeing your open posts and they all look great! I've been wanting to participate but the Mystery Bug really drained me of all types of energy including that for participating in fun things. But I so do appreciate that you're hosting those kinds of conversation. ♥

For me, Facebook gave me a different kind of anxiety - that of not being a Good Enough Friend. I was always missing things (thanks Facebook algorithms), I was never commenting enough, and being around but not present enough to be the kind of friend I wanted to be made me decide to just not go on Facebook at all. Plus my workplace is very social and everyone's added everyone else and I...don't feel comfortable with that? I've always been very private about certain aspects of my life (including fandom, but also things I don't really talk about like growing up in a commune), and there would just be too much crossing of streams on Facebook. So it's easier to just say "I don't use Facebook" than have a hidden presence and tell colleagues I don't want to add them.

On the other hand I have curated a Twitter experience that I find very enjoyable. After muting a lot of keywords and turning off a lot of accounts' retweets I have a feed that is 80% friends tweeting about fandom and daily life, 10% authors tweeting about everything and anything (including current events) in ways that I really appreciate, and 10% randomness. What I like about Twitter is the fannish community. I love longform but I don't always have energy for it, but on Twitter I can get a lot of social interaction through quick, easy exchanges. I've been able to both offer and get support in a way that has made me feel good about my presence there, and as long as I stay in my lane and hang out with my people (and mute all the keywords that spark anxiety and annoyance) it's a good place to be.

Date: 2020-09-25 10:12 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
Hahahahaha when I finally allowed other people to basically NAG ME TO DEATH to get on Facebook, I was friended IMMEDIATELY by my parents, my in-laws, my stepsisters, my cousins, my college friends, some grad school friends, WORK friends and ALSO people from fandom/LJ/DW. There was absolutely zero chance of me ever posting anything even mildly controversial or personally revealing from day one. Now I get nagged to death there about "Why don't you ever update?" but since I never get any notifications from Facebook ever, at least that happens where I can't hear it. I don't necessarily want work or school acquaintances to know about my fandom life or fandom friends to know IRL details! Ack.

Date: 2020-09-26 08:39 pm (UTC)
naye: A cartoon of a woman with red hair and glasses in front of a progressive pride flag. (Default)
From: [personal profile] naye
Oh dear! Yes this is definitely validating my choice to go with "I don't use Facebook", even if I do miss a couple of people who're only active there.

Date: 2020-09-28 08:41 pm (UTC)
naye: A cartoon of a woman with red hair and glasses in front of a progressive pride flag. (Default)
From: [personal profile] naye
Being around conflict is awful.
We say that, and then I'm married to someone who did "debate" for fun in school. So it takes all kinds I guess! (But yes, no, I avoid it in every way I can.)

Regarding Facebook, I have an absolutely rigid separation between my professional and personal lives
This sounds very good and very healthy.

The whole point of this post was not to say 'my way is the best, and you should all copy me,' but to encourage people to do a kind of mental audit of the platforms they used, and ask themselves a) what they want to get out of said platforms, b) what, if anything was making them unhappy with said platforms, and c) what, if anything, could they do to remove those sources of unhappiness and make the platforms work for them. The answer to all these questions is going to vary from person to person.
Oh yeah, that's absolutely what I took away from it, too. That, and talking about it made me realize I could actually be even better at taking care of myself, and I went and added another dozen or so words to mute and turned off more retweets. It's already cut down on the Doom Content that was slinking through my existing filters, so thank you for spurring that! ♥

Date: 2020-09-26 05:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] trepkos
My blocked listed on Facebook is longer than my friends list. Any stranger who irritates me is instantly blocked. Friends who are friends because of shared history are sometimes silenced for a while, if they post something obnoxious, though I will occasionally challenge them. I don't engage with Twitter.

Date: 2020-09-27 09:59 pm (UTC)
lirazel: Gaby Teller from Man from UNCLE (2015) ([film] little chop shop girl)
From: [personal profile] lirazel
So glad to see this post! Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and your journey--this is so on my mind lately.

I use Dreamwidth because mid-2000s era Livejournal was basically the internet at its best for me: longform blogging, a community of enthusiastic commenters who replied at length, the ability to create communities based on interests, the ability to control access to what you posted, no retweet/share/reblog button, a chronological feed, no ads, and no selling of user data.

YES. I've been a serious user of the internet for about 20 years now, and that was the highlight for me, though, honestly, any pre-Facebook-eats-the-world time was great.

I would also say that it is helpful to remove the sense of guilt you might feel at no longer bearing constant, immediate, real-time witness to all the iniquities of the world.

This is something I am consciously working on right now.

Date: 2020-09-30 12:43 am (UTC)
lirazel: The three Bronte sisters as portrayed in To Walk Invisible looking out over the moor ([tv] three suns)
From: [personal profile] lirazel
God, "doomscrolling" is just the most vivid and accurate word.

I wasn't aware of those communities at all, so thank you so much for alerting me to them! They sound like really great resources to check out.

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